O'Gara 1st MRB

Housemade charcuterie!! I love my job!

Do you air mail? What state and town are you in!

JP

Yum!

Awesome! Now start cranking out those babies! LOL

JP

R&U, Sir!

Happy Birthday!

I think my vagina just fell out.

Wow,

You have no first hand knowledge and no real Life experience and you somehow think you are the smartest person in the room. Your not. Every counter point you made is basically made up of "i know you are but what am I". At least I give you defined detailed examples. You simply say "no your wrong". I tell you about my direct knowledge of the events at one of the biggest health care companies in the world and you bring up your aunt who happens to work at some small time alliance, who just happens to support your "conspiracy theory" and then actually tells you off the cuff, that they did not need to raise prices, that they are gouging their customers. Wow how bloody convenient. Did she take you into her garage and tell you to get into the car and turn the radio up real loud to make sure the people that are listening in on the microphones could not hear your conversation? Where did you come up with Premier being a healthcare provider, everything on its own website states it is a provider of cost savings TO health care providers and Hospitals. They are supply chain and data gathering. Not one place on their own website shows any healthcare plans or enrollment in individual plans. Your exact words, (Very interesting how she told me that Premier, which has also increased their premiums, didn't need too do so.) What premiums did they raise since they don't provide health care plans, they are a provider of supply chain and data gathering to hospitals and health care plans?

Let me tell you one simple thing. When I share with you my real life situation it is the gods honest truth. I don't bullshit for the sake of hearing myself talk. I don't bullshit for the sake of trying to win an argument, especially since this is an opinion section and not a debate section of the forums. Your Premier Healthcare alliance is like some pee wee football league compared to the pro's. Correction they are not even in the league! P.S. All political candidates raise money and have money on hand to pay to rent buses and provide food. They simply all got together and pooled their resources to get their message out. No big boogie man behind the curtain pulling levers and strings.

Please do not respond to this post because it will be my last back and forth with you on this issue. If I wanted to argue with a brick wall I will just go out front and argue with my front wall.

Peace out.

JP

Guys... she probably ran for help. Ever think about that?

Thank God she was not down around the Capital building cause it could have ended badly for her. What to soon?

OR

She just got GTA 5 and just jacked a car a block away..The cops in GTA 5 are crazy good shooters..I would have run too....

JP

JP we need to hit the Iron Hill in Montgomeryville sometime. Bring Visca.

Sold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohhh man! you are old Ogara! xD

Yes but still sexy...you can admit it!!!!!!!!!!

JP

Sorry O'Gara, but too be as respectful as possible, you are wrong.

The Tea Party is nothing more then bought and paid for stooges of corporations; most notably the Koch Brothers... who literally front rolled and co-opted the movement from the start and still the biggest money behind the movement. (First off Perrone, I love you but I think you need to re-apply another layer of tinfoil to your home because the gamma rays are getting in and making you paranoid again. ) The Tea Party will of course remove anyone, Republican or Democrat, who don't match their extremely partisan political view points and threaten anyone who doesn't tow the line with them... and that's why we are currently in the situation we find ourselves in.

So define what's "non essential programs"? Because you ask 10 different people, they'll give you 10 different ideas of what is "non essential".

I'm actually all for a tax too help pay for the debt off. Sadly, Republicans nor Tea Partier's will ever push this idea. In fact, I've been pushing too increase sales tax by $.05 for every item meant too pay off the debt. I can't find data on how many items are sold in a day (you think there would be something like that somewhere), but Walmart sales about 5.5 billion boxes of product a year; that's about 15 million boxes of product a day; if you just add $.05 per boxes(don't know how many items are in said boxes so we'll go with boxes), $750,000 a day will be made too pay down the debt, just imagine when you include ALL sales across the US. But as I said, neither Republicans or Tea Partier's will ever accept this... because they think they can fix everything by cutting everything they think is "unnecessary spending", increase military spending (even though the military themselves claim they don't need it) and my absolute favorite, refusal too increase taxes on businesses and people who are racking in massive amounts of money, but paying close too nothing.

Sorry buddy, you, like most Americans, have no idea what you're talking about when it comes too health care or the ACA. (The previous statement only shows that you do not understand the ACA and you have no real life experience. The example I gave you is my real life situation. The rise in premium is actual. The ACA was signed into law on March 2010. Before this law my premiums went up by 7-10% per year. Since my premium was set for the year in 1/2010, the first increase cam in 1/2011, second in 2012 and third in 2013. In that short 3 year span my premium has DOUBLED, 100%. That is not because the company is gouging. It is because the companies have adjusted their policies to reflect mandated changes they can offer to all Americans. If this were simply the cost of insurance going up my premium would have gone up only about $90.00 per month and would have taken 10 years to double my original payment per month. It started after the passage of the ACA. Your completely Wrong in your argument. Namely, All private health care companies Immediately adopted the let your kid stay on Daddy's policy until age 26 from age 21. This caused a 20% spike in premium on day one! They did this to get ahead of the new ACA. I know much more than you even think, I work for the 5th largest insurance carrier in the world. My wife works for AETNA and is privy to all of the adjustments the companies have made in order to get compliant with this law, not to mention competitive. In fact, my wife has been on a task force that has dealt with how to make this transition because of her Government Medicare expertise, she reports to the top 5 people who handle Medicare at Aetna. The ACA is not nor was it directly responsible for the raise in prices or premiums in current health care coverage by PRIVATE companies. Again you do not know what you are talking about. Not one single American will be insured under the ACA through the government. As with Medicare, the government will certify all health care companies to provide health plans for those who sign up for the ACA. The reason the companies updated their policies over the last 3 years is because they want the private plans to be priced accordingly to what levels and mandates of the ACA. Please do not tell me that I do not know what I am talking about, when not one point in your rebuttal stands up to the light of day. Those companies chose too raise their premiums/prices not too cover premiums of new people (why would they need too increase premiums of current holders when they are PAYING for their own plans?)... because the ACA did not have people signing up until a few days ago in 10/1/2013, The reason the companies updated their policies over the last 3 years is because they want the private plans to be priced accordingly to what levels and mandates of the ACA (the non ACA plans should be the same level of coverage OR have better levels of coverage, this should be very easy to understand. but so they can increase their bottom line. As well, with the increase of people covered by health insurance will lead too a decrease in medical prices and health insurance. Why? Because the current excuse for the insane prices in medicine is the claim that people use the emergency room and run too never pay; and the prices in health insurance will drop because the more people who get coverage, the more money is available too cover people, with more people in there, prices will go down.

Also, the ACA had much better coverage in the original bill that was introduced... until Republicans were allowed too re-write certain portions of it, like removing a government option, in order to get them to not filibuster it to death in the Senate. Again you do not know what you are saying. Wikipedia the act and you will see that not one Republican Senator voted for the ACA. They all were a Nay vote. The vote was 60 yea and 39 nay. Again not one Republican vote thus your "changes" due to filibuster is not logical. Would there not be Republican yeas if they got concessions? There is this great thing called Google that you can actually fact check yourself. As well, instead of trying too "fine tune" the bill, which is generally what happens after issues arise with the bill, they've done nothing but make extremely pathetic grandstanding trying too repeal it, and any flaws in the bill, they've written off as a reason why it needs too be repealed.

But in the end, this entire situation is due too the hard core right wing Republican partisan politics. Republicans chose too play the game chicken... and they got hit by the car. There was absolutely no logical reason too hold the government hostage because of the ACA.

I respect ya JP, hence why I stopped calling you Ogi. If you start fact checking yourself you can go back to calling me Ogi, lol, no offense taken!

JP

As you all know Greg Visca is doing a full years missionary work in the USA. He will be State to State and town to town.

I think this would be a great opportunity to keep track of him on his travels. I will keep in touch with Greg and see where he will be going next and hopefully he will visit different unit members in the State he is visiting.

I will start first. Greg was getting training for his work in West Chester Pa and that is 40 minutes away. So I hopped in the car and drove up and had lunch with him. We went to this great burger place called Buddy's burger and fries. After Lunch we went to the Iron Hill Brewery next door for some beers! It was a great time catching up with him

Here is the picture. I am the good looking one in the polo shirt!

JP

The funny thing is that so many of the countries would love to see the USA go bankrupt and break up into individual states/countries, who worry about themselves and don't care about the global issues. They forget that the only thing from keeping the wolf at bay is the USA. If this were to happen the rest of the world would see what Russia and China are really like.

@ O'Gara

Perhaps you're right about the money involved, it still makes no sense to me why the Tea Party are resorting to this tactic. If this situation were to be resolved tonight(which I doubt), that would still be close to 5 billion dollars of your money down the toilet. For a party that you claim is highly concerned about getting rid of all this debt you guys have without raising taxes, they sure don't seem to have qualms about risking pissing the entire treasury away over something that has basically been made law. I don't know about you, but I've never seen a country pay off its debt when it has no capital to use.

To be honest with you, I don't trust the Tea Party at all, the policies I've heard them talk about are unrealistic. How the hell are you guys going to pay off any of your debt in any reasonable amount of time without raising taxes I don't understand at all, because you have no major industries left that make anywhere near that amount of money. Not to mention that any corporations that do make a significant amount of money won't be taxed under them, and you guys don't really have any liquidable assets that you guys are willing to sell that would come anywhere close to paying that debt off.

In any case, with your idea about the twenty years plan, I wish it were that easy. Here is your average modern politician's and party's primary concern that governs all of their decisions: getting re-elected. A twenty year plan will not work in a system where the ruling party can change within 4 years, because I'll bet you that as soon as such a plan is implemented and an election happens, that plan will go through so many changes that it'll be unrecognizable. None of the parties are willing to compromise on anything if they are enemies, that's the message I'm getting from what I'm seeing down there, and its the same shit up here in Canada(or Ontario at least).

As for that incident today, that most certainly is not going to help the situation, regardless of the circumstances and its only going to get worse the closer to October 17th this drags on I'll wager.

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Let me break it down.

Tea party wants seats in Govt and does not care if they are Democrat or Republican They will run against them both and take seats. Thus their motive.

5 Billion to the government is like one tenth of one penny. The money you keep referring to is offset by not paying wages and other things. Thus it is really no REAL MONEY.

The GOP is not in power and has no ability to save any money under this administration. Again the reported money the news keeps talking about is a drop in the bucket, like one tenth on a penny. Even if they had the answer to eliminating the debt and have God himself vouching for them the Dems will not pass their fix.

Corporations employ people the less taxes they pay the more they have to employ, win win

No capital to use? Our GDP is more than half the countries in this world combined.. don't worry about us we will be fine in 2=8 years.

My 20 year plan can actually work in less than 7 years. It may take at least 5-8 years to get a plan like that in place due to the partisian politics. In the past we retired trillion dollar debt under bill Clinton in less than 4 years. Again don't worry about us we are fine.

JP

Sadly it was only a matter of time and its only gonna get worse. Can't say if this incident is related to the shutdown, but I'm sure it will spark other events. Women had a child in the car with her and rammed the white house gates.

Sadly this was most likely a poor woman that got lost and went the wrong way. She actually was able to drive down the road to the White House because the initial barriers were down ( they sink into the ground when they want vehicles to drive by and are raised up to block vehicles access. Thus someone fucked up by leaving them down which allowed her to drive right on by. When she got down to the formal barriers she tried to turn around and was confronted by a SS agent. When the SS agent tried to stop her she freaked and bolted. The agent was actually rolled off of her hood. From all accounts they had her boxed in with other cars. I understand about terrorism but they still have to try to apprehend. I really do not think they had to shoot her.

JP

I find it funny that you say the GOP want to both pay off the debt and have no taxes. ( I said no such thing at all, please reread my post.) (What I said is not add to the debt!) Those two things are incompatible and exactly why there is so much debt. Both parties are equally responsible for never taxing people and business to pay for what is spent and enough to lower the debt. There's all this posturing between the two parties about higher or lower deficits in the hundreds of billions, but any deficit adds to the debt. So how exactly are they arguing that they're going to fix it? (they don't have to fix it they are not in the Majority, they could have 100 economic experts behind a foolproof plan and the party in power will never accept they have the right answer and pass it.) It can only be paid down by printing money, which lowers the value of everyone's savings, or taxing. Actually I can think of a third way. The government could open for-profit businesses. Government grocery stores, government landscaping, government plumbers, etc. Supposedly the government is worse than private enterprise at everything, how about letting them compete with businesses and see if that's true? ( How about this option. The government shuts down all non essential spending. Trims the fat on all unproductive spending and unproductive research. Add no new social programs. Adds a deficit reduction tax to each and every American that can not be offset by tax deductions. In 20 years it will be gone.)

As for 'exempting' congress from the ACA, the point is to make people who don't have good health insurance get good health insurance. If your existing health insurance was as good as the plan they have, then you wouldn't have to switch either. If you really think that they have such a sweet deal, why not argue in favour of expanding the medical coverage that congressmen get so it's one of the options on the healthcare marketplaces? Maybe it will be one of the more expensive ones, maybe it wont be. (your missing the point. They are telling everyone they must have coverage but not as good as theirs. I used to pay $287.00 per month for my family of 4's health insurance and that was before the existence of Obama-care. I now pay $600 per month and they will go up to over $1000 next year unless I take a $5,000 deductible. I was responsible and worked and had healthcare. Your argument that this is a plan to help those who did not have health care is pointless. The costs of my health care have quadrupled in order to insure those that went without. That is not fair or American. I surmise that within 2-3 years I will have to opt out of my employer health care (because I will no longer be able to afford it) and have to take the cut rate Obama-care with less coverage. That is precisely why I want the Congress and Senate and White House not to be exempt. If they had to have the same coverage for their families they would have passed a better program or none at all.)

Aah, Canadians arguing American politics. What your not understanding is our founders set up a government with these checks and balances so that one party can not control everything. The Senate and Congress are made up of politicians who are elected by the people of their states and or congressional districts.

Blame is an easy thing.

You want to blame the tea party? Why? The tea party representatives are duly elected and they were sent to Washington precisely to do what they are doing. They want to end big government programs such as Obama-care and stop the open check system that is bankrupting this country. Every new social program adds to the 16 Trillion in debt. This is not our debt...It is our children's and grandchildren's debt. Future generations of Americans will have 3rd world poverty, if we do not get rid of the trillions in debt. The Tea party got elected by promising to fight against all of this. It is refreshing to see politicians actually do what they promised come hell or high water. I am not a Tea Party supporter but at least they do what they say. Consequently they are telling the GOP leadership that if they cave to the Democrats on these issues they will work at the local level to oust those republicans. I have no issue with these guys, they are doing what they said they would do.

Blame the GOP? The republican party (which is my party) has lost its way and continues to act like Custer at Little Bighorn. The shutdown is not a fight they can win. It will end eventually and they will bear the blame and lose seats as a result of it, unless they end it in a day or two. The American people have a short memory. What they are doing now is asinine because losing seats will only add more Democrats to the congress and Senate and allow them to pass more legislation that will saddle us in more debt. They are so afraid to lose their seats they will blindly allow the Tea party to run the show here which will only damage the GOP. They can not even realize they are being used, being made to take the blame and making it easier for the tea party to get them unseated while getting their own candidates elected to those seats. I wish they would simply end this for the good of the American people and then get together and reorganize their platform and base stick only to that platform. Family values, small government, no taxes, etc.

Blame the Democrats? I do blame the democrats because many of them went on record stating they voted for Obama-care without even reading the bill. They blindly voted for trillions in debt. That one is priceless. The White house, Congress and Senate all should not be exempted from Obama-care. They should all be the first applicants. By God if they were, this legislation would have never passed, they have a level of health insurance that none of us will ever get. How have the American people not rebelled on the fact that they have better coverage than what they are MANDATING to the rest of us? Yet alas, they are only doing what they promised. They have an agenda and because they have the White House and the Senate they have the upper hand.

The bottom line our system is not broken. It was set up to work this way. What we really need is good politicians who will do what they promise and not do whatever they need to do to keep their job. More importantly, politics is about reaching across the isle and compromising on things to get what you need. Anyone that thinks this is about Obama is wrong, the Democrats did the same thing for Bush and the republicans tried to do the same thing for Clinton. Some time during the Clinton years politicians went into their bunkers and never came out. This is what has to change.

JP

I have been a fan of his work since The hunt for Red October. I have read everything that he has penned.

This is a big loss to those who love the Spy/Military thrillers.

Recently he pretty much retired after finding a handful of up and coming writers that he started co-authoring books with.

Thus he made sure there were many authors that he approved of continuing his type of writing.

JP

Great ending. Wrapped up everything. But is he dead? lol

I love how he went there to kill them all and himself and when he saw Jesse he tried to save his life. Priceless!

Those 5 guitars are the only ones in the country.

Happy B-Day!

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Stop molesting the food people! And OGara, if i ever win the lottery, i'm hiring you as my chef! XD

Thank you. By the way when i made that gumbo I used your suggestion on adding the eggs and my kids ate everyone of them. Thanks for the suggestion it will be in every gumbo I make from now on.

JP

Now we need the video.

*cough* Takel *cough*

tried to do it earlier but it didn't work. I can upload the .dem file tomorrow if someone else is willing to do it or if someone wants to talk me through the process that would also be good.

I too do not want the recording of Parker Cell: O'Gara To-Shovel to remain unreleased.

Takel, if you upload it I will hire a midget to knock on your front door and when you answer the door he will kick you in the balls!

to be fair, it could of happened to anyone!

Its true Johnson, but the repeated voice commands with no response, not even a turn around and look, is what makes it so funny!

Candy eat a dick!

I thought he was spamming the commands from the front nose of the plane!

FU ALL (except command staff) lol I got promoted after that! LOL

Johnson your my new favorite unit member!

All kidding aside where is the morale office? lol

JP